What’s up everyone. Did you watch the VP debate last night? Well, I’m not that into politics, I admit. I’m registered, I make a decision, I cast my vote, and that’s about it. I also have to admit that I watched the VP debate last night because I wanted to see how Palin would compare to the Tina Fey impression of her on Saturday Night Live. If you haven’t seen it, go to www.nbc.com. It’s hilarious! I especially love the part where she’s like “I’m just so darn cute! Pew! Pew! Pew!” (Pew! is the sound a 4 year old makes when mimicking the sound of a gun)
I’m not going to go into detail of what was said and the issues, cause I’m sure most of you saw it and formed your opinions. I tried to give Palin the benefit of the doubt, but she just wasn’t really answering the questions well and avoided a lot of it. Biden pretty much showed his 35 years in public office and handled it expertly. A couple things he did that I could see that might have been off putting were these really big sighs and the occasional smirky smile. The sighs would come in big heaves. He’d take a big ass breath and then let it out, sounding like a bratty kid with his mom in the line at the bank trying to let her know that he was bored and ready to go. The smiles were funny as hell to me to. It was like she’d say something, and when he smiled (showing off those blingworthy veneers), he was thinking “Damn, you’re really a f*cking idiot! I’m having so much fun roasting your monkey ass, I hope the viewers don’t think I’m laughing on the inside. Because I am.”
I’m for Obama and Biden, but that bias aside, and looking at last nights debate, the main issue that is scary to me and should be scary to everyone is watching Palin with the cheekiness, the cutesy “You Betcha!” and “Gosh darn!”, and winking and carrying on…..would we really want this woman to possibly be the leader of our nation were something to happen to the president? Isn’t McCain like 98 years old? He looks like he already has one foot in the grave! Do we want this woman that was beating us upside the head with the “hockey mom” and “I’m a maverick” bullsh!t to be president?
On the Today show this morning there was a woman (of course white) who said “She looks like the kind of woman that I can sit across the kitchen table with and talk to! I like that!” Look………..I don’t give a f*ck that she could or could not sit across the kitchen table and talk to someone with all that “you betcha” crap. I want her ass sitting across conference tables with world leaders negotiating policies and peace for the welfare of America and the world. I don’t care how relatable she is. I care about how good of a job she can do. True, to effectively lead, she must have some sense of the people she’s leading, but her being approachable and personable?? I don’t give a sh!t.
Now these ladies at my office, especially the secretary sitting next to me would identify with that mess. I have to hear the secretary when she answers the phone and when she talks to people. If I could take the whitest, corniest, chippiest white woman I know of, she still wouldn’t have sh!t on this secretary. As a matter of fact, if you can make Palin any more chippy, you might have the secretary. I haven’t mentioned her in Office Freaks because she’s just so aggravating being that she exists, that I really wouldn’t know where to begin.
All in all, to sum up last nights debate, we have a few phrases where I’m from that we use to characterize overwhelming victories or defeats:
Palin got her ass DRUG. (drug is the past tense of drag)
Biden PITA-ROLLED her ass. (well, you know what a pita is. It’s nonsensical, but funny just the same)
Palin got SKUNKED. (it would probably be like getting your ass whipped and getting dumped in a heap of horse sh!t.)
Oh, and one more thing, I’m expecting some enterprising entrepreneur to come out with baby T’s for women with the phrase Palin says “Drill Baby Drill” on it.
Happy Friday! The floor is open for commentary. Fire away!! Pew! Pew! Pew!
Cord, after watching the debate I’m thinking that Palin is a lousy campaigner, but probably would be a decent Veep or even President. I try in my mind to separate the politics from the governance. No she doesn’t come across well as a public speaker but most people don’t. I know I wouldn’t.
But again, could I be President and good at it? Perhaps, as long as I had the right people advising me.
Man, I just deleted my comment!! GRRR!!!!
I can see somebody’s enjoying his Friday.
Pro, I disagree.
Man, Palin was atrocious. I think she can neither debate nor govern. Check with the people in her “state” about her governance. What about her suggests she’d be a good VP or Pres.? Nothing. If she needs to rely that heavily on her advisers, perhaps one of them should be in her shoes. She showed no command of any of the complex issues that currently confront our society. It sounds like she had to go somewhere and look up what a VP does, and even then she didn’t comprehend it well if she thought what Chaney has done fits the job description.
I was so glad when Biden got in her on that Maverick foolishness. He was able to extinguish every flame she tried to set by flossing his knowledge and vast experience. He’s obviously the better VP pick, while she wasn’t even qualified to be on the same stage.
That was a classic butt whippin.
O-Biden, 08 anyone?
Oh, was that the debate I was watching? I thought it was “Kids Say the Darndest Things”! My bad!
In all seriousness, I thought she had good answers, just not to the questions asked of her…. My biggest problem with her was that she practiced so hard on these answers that she wanted to give that she didn’t even listen to the question, in fact if a question was asked of her that she didn’t want to answer she said “I don’t want to answer that, I want to say this instead”. I would be afraid of her as a VP because good advisors aside, if she can’t think on her feet and address the issues in front of her, how will she be able to negotiate anything?
Pro, I’m actually quite shocked at your response. If you’re planning on running for some sort of office, it needs to be part of your grooming process to sharpen you public speaking skills. Join Toastmasters or something. Do something. You’ve got to get the public on your side and gain their trust, and the only way to do that is through your track record and how relay your platform publicly.
Honestly, I feel Palin bit off more than she could chew by accepting to run as McCain’s VP. Her greed, errr… ok, “ambition,” got the best of her, and now she’s in over her head. When it comes to politics, I don’t want to be treated like I’m being sold to, and have some cutesie, chipper package shoved in my face. Like Cord said, I want someone who can sit across from world leaders and negotiate on my behalf. From what I saw last night, Palin will not be able to pull that off. It was almost as if she strung together all of the talking points that were given to her and spewed them, disregarding their relevance in relation to the questions. She also not only killed me with the maverick nonsense, but every time she said “nuculer” instead “nuclear” I wanted to turn in my female card.
But, at the same time Palin is such a non issue because people don’t usually cast their votes based on the VP candidate. I mean look at George H. W. Bush and Dan Quayle. He reminded me of a doofy, frat boy, and the majority of Americans thought the same. Nonetheless, the two of them still won the ticket! My hope is that it will be recognized that Obama and Biden are a total package, and you’re not having to make compromise. I wish I was still in DC right now though.
The vibe created downtown by power and politics was always so electrifying to me. I miss that.
i’m certainly not the spokesperson on anything political in the least bit but i honestly don’t see what all the Palin bashing is about. ok, so she winks and smiles and laughs and says quirky things – if that were anyone else but her, would people think it was charming or annoying? if it were Bill Clinton, people would say, “he’s so charming, relatable, down-to-earth and engaging” not..this person is so unfit to run our country.
i’m neither for nor am i against Palin, so i’m not giving her accolades at all. i wasn’t particularly impressed with her’s nor Sen Biden’s performance last night. all that mess was a he said/she said, no i didn’t say that, yes you did say that, i’m better than you, i’ve accomplished this and that, dancing around robinhood’s barn spectacle – and at the end of the debate i felt no more comfortable with either party than i did when this first began. they all scare the hell outta me and neither one said anything definitive or even close to sounding like any real conclusions or solutions would be made. they fill your heads with all this lingo and name dropping and fact quoting and none of it is really saying anything real.
but my main point is, i honestly feel as though people look for reasons to criticize every single thing Palin does because everyone has already made it up in their minds that they can’t stand her nor McCain. it wouldn’t matter what the woman did at this point, she would still be ridiculed. and that’s quite unfair. to be clear, i’m not on her bandwagon (or the Obama/Biden wagon for that matter) but picking apart every minute thing the woman does just seems petty.
Dragonfly, I don’t know about anybody else, but I’m hatin on her because she’s running with a man that has one foot in the grave. She may be ok in a smaller setting, I have no idea, but she hasn’t shown me she can run a country with advisors or not. All of the other people in this race, McCain included, have some ideas of their own (good or bad). They want to change the country for the better in one way or the other, but her she just doesn’t seem to know what is really happening. Now I know my opinion is tainted by the media, but after seeing her in action last night it confirmed my suspisions.
Bluenile, i fully understand your point of view and i don’t necessarily disagree. that said, i don’t feel that she nor Biden particularly seems to have any of these areas mastered.
my point is just that it’s getting old listening to people pick apart every thing she says and does, from her mannerisms and quirks, to how she speaks, to how she wears her hair…it’s petty.
i was watching Rachel Maddow after the debate and she criticized Palin for continuing with her debate points after Biden got choked up when talking about his family’s car accident and not knowing if his son would make it, calling Palin “mean.” i was like come on!! if the woman had commented on his emotions/tragic situation, if she had expressed sympathy or consoled him in any way, people probably still would have thrown her under the bus and criticized her for that too. she kept it on a “business” level and when it was her turn to speak, she stuck to the agenda and responded to the question, and she gets called mean. the woman can’t win no matter what she does. i’m not saying i think she is fit to run the country, i’m just saying that she deserves a “fair trial” so to speak, not getting stones thrown at her and made fun of for dumb stuff just for the sake of antagonizing her in the media.
Dlfy, I’m feeling you to an extent. I mean it stings a little that this lady is getting beat like a pinata at Miguel’s 5th Birthday Party. It makes you wonder for a bit if the press and the public are unleashing on her just because she happens to be a woman. Its kinda like this time this white lady at my old job asked me if I was gonna make chitlins (aka, chitterlings) for Thanksgiving. She only asked me that b/c I was black, I’m sure of it. And I refrained from saying “All niggas don’t eat chitlins.” But I digress…
Now, would a man just as cornball and moronic get the same type of treatment? My answer is “yes.” I once again defer to the Dan Quayle analysis. SNL ripped him apart. As they would Bill Clinton. Always painting him as this smooth talkin ladies man. And don’t forget about Bob Dole. They got on him about that fake hand with the permanent pencil/pen in it. And OMG! Did you see the time he feel off the stage at a campaign rally?! The list goes on and on. Political figures always get poked at. And with Palin its just so easy… and fun, lol.
D, her trial is as fair as anyone else’s who’s in the election this period. What you’re witnessing seems so intense because no one knew her before five weeks ago. She’s not a major political player–at all. The other candidates have been undergoing similar scrutiny for at least a year or more now and are beyond the point of the focus on minutiae (I know I killed that spelling, sorry). The scrutiny for them has shifted to policy. Folks are still trying to figure out who she is and whether she has any substance. Politics is a dirty game, and anyone unfit to play need not be on a team.
The media have already picked on Obama and McCain ad nauseum and to a certain extent, Biden as well (he was formerly a candidate). Did you feel they were treated unfairly when Obama was scrutinized on personal matters (including those that were/are clearly racial) or when McCain was/is criticized for his age? They were also critiqued on insignificant matters such as dress and demeanor as well.
For all intents and purposes, as harsh as it may be, her trial is fair when compared to the others, and if she can’t withstand intense scrutiny now, what will she do once in office? One of Hillary’s strong points was that she could hold her own against any man and knew how to take a few punches and still stand; she was criticized on many points but not on those. Palin leaves herself far too open to scrutiny.
LOL, yes i do remember when Dole fell off the stage. maaaan, that was insane! LOL
i so hear you, MP. i know that anyone running for office is fair game because someone is always going to not like you. and i know opposers of Biden and Obama get their share of flack and jokes at the hands of those who don’t like them too. but with Palin, it’s out of control. it’s gotten way too childish and petty.
like i said, i don’t oppose ANYONE who opposes Palin due to her lack of experience or her political stance. but all the critique of the “little” stuff and using that as a weapon to antagonize her and a reason to hate her even more isn’t fair. i don’t know if it’s because she’s a woman, because she is running with McCain, or …what?
if you want to hate her – fine. but hate her because of her stance on the issues or because you honestly feel she doesn’t have the tools to run the country, not because of all the other petty stuff that has nothing to do with her abilities (or lack of abilities). like the winking and quirky Palin-isms. if Sen Obama had been up there winking, smiling and laughing and had his own charming Obama-isms, people would say “Go ‘head Barack!! he’s so cool…” i mean, everyone ate it up and loved it when he came out on the Ellen set dancing. it made him fun, relatable, cool. let Palin have come out on some show dancing – she would have been laughed off the planet. i mean, Palin winks and she’s stupid and unfit..? come on…
Sigh….now this is the reason why I don’t get political. People get serious, and Corduroy Johnson likes to keep it light and keep people laughing. (Notice I refer to myself in the third person like my main man Joe Biden!). There are plenty other blogs out there that are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more serious and substantive that mine. Pro’s for instance has a lotta good political commentary. Like Austin Powers says, “It’s just not my bag, baby.” I gotta think of something funny to post so we can all love on each other again, STAT!
Pew! Pew! Pew!
(i love imitating that)
Word, Dfly… I totally hear you.
And my stance is that not only does Palin not have the tools, she is a tool. LOL! Only kidding… well, not really.
Ok, no more for me, lol. Happy Friday guys!!
i so hear you, A. and i equally can’t stand the way the media and the people criticize any of the candidates on dumb stuff (like style, clothes, etc.) – it’s gay and whack and has nothing to do with someone’s ability to efficiently run a country.
my being presently fired up about the attacks on Palin are perhaps stronger because it seems nonstop, relentless and i’m highly annoyed. i need for people to focus on what’s important and leave out all that other jazz. there’s way too much at stake for people to be spending energy and time getting all up in arms over petty stuff.
PROPHETESS!! LOL! i’mma spank you (in a totally non-lezzy way)
LOL! “Not that there is anything wrong with that!”
LOL!!! MP! you are a TRIP and a half!
and Cord, please don’t feel bothered by our debating. though i hate politics and political discussion, i’m glad you posted this! a little healthy debate/opposition is great for folks. it helps us learn about each other and each other’s points of view. we all still love each other!!! well, i do anyway!
i’m certainly not mad at anyone on here, whether i agree with their takes or not.
We do still love each other. but Dfly, he said love “on” each other…
Cord, we aren’t looking for a blog orgy, LOL! Just playing. Can’t wait to see what comes next. I’m definitely not doing any work today.
LOL@ Pew! Pew! Pew! I’m cracking up over here. Cord needs help.
yes, MP – Cord did say love “on” each other…there is a difference, so my bad!
i was still laughing at Pew! Pew! Pew! too A, LOL! and saying it out loud in a squeaky kid voice makes it even funnier. or am i the only one who did that…??
ha!
Yup, It’s all good! It’s good to have some healthy debates at times though to keep us on our toes… especially on a Friday. I mentally “checked out” at work around 10 a.m.
Now, did someone say something about an orgy? (LOL)